Saturday, April 21, 2012

Starting to play wow again.. need help with patch

Hi,

I want to start to play wow again. i have a lvl 20 warlock on runetotem i guesse, but i installed the game (classic wow) on mpy new computer i just got recently but after i installed it, i had to instal and download another file of 3.4 gb and im currently downloading at 50kb/s ... :/ Is this TBC patch or just a patch that comes with classic wow? i would apreciate any help guys:)

Grtz|||It's probably every single patch from whatever version classic WoW was when it was first released, all the way to most recent one: 3.3.3a.

If the Blizzard downloader is being slow, I'd recommend finding a good mirror.

Fileplanet has a nice all-in-one package which will get you all of the major patches, but not the most recent mini patches, but getting the mini-patches off of the Blizzard downloader isn't that much of a hassle.|||Hmmmm...I have a level 20 something warlock on Runetotem US. :) But yeah, if you're patching up from vanilla, you've got a ways to go.|||Quote:








It's probably every single patch from whatever version classic WoW was when it was first released, all the way to most recent one: 3.3.3a.

If the Blizzard downloader is being slow, I'd recommend finding a good mirror.

Fileplanet has a nice all-in-one package which will get you all of the major patches, but not the most recent mini patches, but getting the mini-patches off of the Blizzard downloader isn't that much of a hassle.




Stupid Question Inc!

Do I have to reinstall Vanilla WoW onto my computer and then install the patches from Fileplanet? I assume you still need to D/L Vanilla WoW.



Where is my dunce cap? I need it right now.|||Quote:








Stupid Question Inc!

Do I have to reinstall Vanilla WoW onto my computer and then install the patches from Fileplanet? I assume you still need to D/L Vanilla WoW.



Where is my dunce cap? I need it right now.




Yes. You'll need to reinstall classic and then install the patches.|||Alternatively, you can always reduce the amount of patches you have to download by buying everything up to and including the most recent X-Pack (WotLK), although if you're just trying the game out for the first time, I don't recommend that in case you don't like it.|||Is any body on?

1:52 pm eastern|||If download speeds are being terrible with the blizzard downloader (which is often the case) and you don't want to go through the hassle or manually downloading the patches from a mirror, normally you can increase the speed of the downloader by going to the options and turning off peer-to-peer transfer.

This effectively changes it from a torrent to a normal download, which is generally more efficient.|||Quote:








Is any body on?

1:52 pm eastern




Maaaaaybe. Why?

(But seriously, this website is strongly populated by EU players, you'll find them on at what are normal times for *them* and not so normal times for *you*. I have a mediocre chance of being on at the given time, depending on my work schedule on that day.)

help me pick pro's on my realm

ok i have 1 of each class all horde ill give the list of the toons and what class they are i just want a few suggestions on what pro's i should have for each one remember its on the same realm

Blood Elf-Mage- is my main already has pro's (skinning/leatherworking)

Undead-Death Knight-

Troll-Hunter-

Blood Elf-Paladin-

Tauren-Warrior-

Orc-Warlock-

Orc-Rogue-

Troll-Priest-

Tauren-Shaman-

Tauren-Druid-

ty for your time it is appreciated|||Just curious - why a mage with leatherworking ?|||Maybe he wanted to make enchanted leathers and wasn't sure how to go about it?|||becuase my friend told me that skinning/leatherworking is the eziest to lvl and get money with but i will b using the rest of the toons equally so they can send me things for the mage and there is some stuff i can use from leatherworking with the mage i just would like op on the

other classes i dont know which is good with what yet i just started 4 months ago also but i play like 12 hrs a day after work|||Fair enough.

There's not really any definitive "best of per class" profession. Your plate users (DK, Pala, Warrior) will gain benefit from blacksmithing, your cloth wearers (Priest, Warlock, Mage) from tailoring and your leather/mail wearers (Druid, Rogue, Hunter, Shaman) from leatherworking.

You'll also want to probably combine your manufacturing professions with your gathering professions :-

Leatherworking -> Skinning

Blacksmithing -> Mining

Engineering -> Mining

Inscription -> Herbalism

Alchemy -> Herbalism

Tailoring and Enchanting don't need a gathering profession.

Of course, you don't need to combine your professions this way - if you already have one toon with Herbalism, then they can send herbs to your scribe or alchemist.|||There are two schools of thought here in this forum, but here's what I think. If your characters are all relatively low level, say 40 or less, then the gathering professions make good sense. Even doubling up and having two Herbalists or two Skinners or Miners makes good sense. Gather like mad, sell the gathered materials on the AH or in Trade chat and make yourself some gold for mounts, equipment and the like.

Then, once you've levelled up to at least 40 (50 might be even better) drop one gathering profession per character and take up a crafting one, one that will make use of what that character can gather. You can then craft things that will sell or that your other alts can use or wear.

I've done the professions thing both ways: started at a low level with both crafting and gathering; gone for gathering all the way to a higher level. I have to say that levelling a higher-level character in a crafting profession is far faster and easier because of the access he has to gathered stuff. I levelled a level 80 Death Knight to 465 in Engineering in about two months and that was just picking away at it when I had some spare time.

Don't forget the secondaries: First Aid (really a useful skill that saves on potions), Fishing (fish sell well and can be cooked to provide food which also sells well) and Cooking (you can make a lot of gold selling cooked items and they're useful for your own characters as well).|||all toons are brand new even the mage which is just lvl 12 atm just started yesterday for horde but the reason y i asked cuz there are 2 class's that have bonuses for doing things like taruen with herb and Blood elf with enchant so that is y i asked also i never thought of having 1 toon with 2 gathering skills just didnt faze me i was just doing a gathering and crafting together then when the craft was maxed do either enchant or tailoring instead of gathering|||Racial bonuses for skills simply aren't that big a deal. Tauren get a slight advantage in that they are able to pick earthroot right off the bat, but the downside of this is that they also need to get 15 extra points before they "max" a skill and get their Lifeblood (small heal over time). This means that everyone else gets their first level of Lifeblood at 75 skill, but Tauren need to reach 90 to get their first level of Lifeblood. So they have their downsides as well. Choose skills based on what you want to do, not on racials.

My orc rogue is an enchanter and herbalist -- you obviously don't need herbalism for enchanting, but enchanting is very expensive and herbalism is still a great money maker.

I would definitely drop leatherworking on the mage. A lot of the best stuff you can make for that is BoP (bind on pickup, meaning you can't trade it to anyone) and as a cloth-wearing mage you won't be able to use it.

And...

Don't take this the wrong way, but ... dude, that post above is one sentence. A lot of people aren't even going to bother to read a wall o'text. Granted, in your case, it's just a knee wall, but punctuation is very helpful and you're much more likely to get positive response if you divide your words up with punctuation and paragraphs. Caps are helpful too. People don't want to have to work that hard to read a post, so a lot of people will likely ignore it. Make it easy for people to read, and people will.

...Ren|||Renata, thats very outdated information. There havent been bop items at high end since TBC and the profession specific "perks" are equal for everyone. In Leatherworking's case it's special bracer enchants, which do include a spellpower one, in addition to stamina and attack power ones. Similarly all the other crafting professions have something for everyone and are just as good regardless of class or spec.|||I stand by my statement that leatherworking is one of the least useful professions for a mage. At least with tailoring, he could make other things for himself that he can use, particularly leveling up. I'd no more take leatherworking on a cloth wearer for a couple of bracer enchants than I'd take enchanting simply for the ring enchants. My rogue is an enchanter for a number of reasons, and a couple enchants are among the least of it.

...Ren

How to heal during a dungeon ?

Im new to WoW . Ive been playing a little less than a week and just did my first dungeon . I was the healer but I dont kno how to heal every one . Could someone please help ?!|||Going to need a bit more information than this. What class are you? What level (guessing around level 15)?

For starters, you can select different people in your party by clicking on their portraits. If you then cast the spell you use to heal them, it'll cast on them.|||Select party member. Cast a heal on them.

It's not rocket science.|||Quote:








Im new to WoW . Ive been playing a little less than a week and just did my first dungeon . I was the healer but I dont kno how to heal every one . Could someone please help ?!




Need to know level and class to give accurate information, however:

Quick and dirty overview of healing. Hots (heal over time) goes on your tank (the guy staring down the main mob) before he goes out there to get it. When he goes, wait a second for him to get its attention, then start healing him...usually little heals to keep him going. If he does his job well, (probably not going to happen at the level we think you are) then he's the only one you will need to heal. Remember big heals take more time than little heals, if you start a big one, you better believe you've got the time to complete it or your target is down. Eventually you'll have abilities to heal more than one person at a time, which makes the job easier.

When this doesn't work and more than tank is taking damage: Tank and healer get first heals, dps gets healed after them. (Remember, your healer is your rezzer as well, if you die, it's not happy) Keep an eye on your mana, and always carry a goodly amount of mana potions to keep yourself topped off. If you are healer, that is your single job. You can toss an occasional offensive spell if you feel really comfortable, but as a new healer, I don't suggest it. You stay in the middle of the group, not in the front, occasionally in the back. Make certain every party member has all the good stuff your class offers...blessings, prayers, totems, buffs... and check this often. Remember to always have tons of the items you need to give your party these... nothing screams noob like... "Oh, guys... I didn't buy my candles, thorns, etc..." when you're in the instance.

No, it's not rocket science...but it does take practice and thought.

Duel Spec Damage Low

Hi there! My toon is a level 66 human Warrior and I am not the most educated player trust me...I do a lot of reading.

However I finally took the plunge and purchased the duel spec for DPS. My talents are 7/51/0. Of course I just had to get the titans grip.

What I noticed right away was when I equipped my second sword my damage immediately went down to red. If I take it back off...the stats go back up. They are the both type of two handed swords and both are enchanted with Mongoose. So I'm not sure exactly is going on...could someone help me?

What do I need to do to bring up my damage again?

Thanks

Ariesofdeath|||What are your talents for the other spec?|||Thanks for asking...my other specs are 3/0/55 all protection for tanking...|||Well, the talent reads:

"While you have a two-handed weapon equipped in one hand, your physical damage done is reduced by 10%"

Could that be what you're seeing?|||Did you actually look at the talents you had brought or just seen a build on the net and copied it? Titans grip reduces all damage done by 10% when there is a 2h-wep in the offhand slot, or you use a 2hand wep with a shield/one hander.

That said, the damage increase from having another twohander outstrips the 10% loss, so you are gaining damage, it just doesn't seem like it if you look at your stats.|||Great! Thanks everyone what you have said does make sense to me. And yes I read and read and spent alot of gold trying new things out on my talent tree to find one that suits my playing style. This one I found is new to me. I found the specs off of the armory.

I tried out the specs last night and I suppose I am so used to being a tank that its a little odd. LOL...I guess I'm not used to things running from me...

After you all mentioned it I looked at it again and yes your right about the 10% and thank you for answering my puzzling questions....

Ariesofdeath

I can't interact in the game.

I am totally new at playing WOW and only began a day ago. My character is a night elf currently level 4. However today I appear to be losing connection. I can't communicate with guards or the CPU's . Everything is freezing.I can't purchase items from the shop keepers because they don't exist. I can't attack enemies (and they can't attack me), I can't get experience and I can't do quests. I can move around but all the characters controlled by other players have vanished.I can see the night elf guards and Protectors but I can't interact. I have no idea what has happened. Can anybody help or explain what has happened ? I'd really appreciate it.|||Assuming you're using a legal copy of the game, it sounds to me like you're having lag/rubber band/internet issues more than a game issue. I'd be curious to know what kind of internet you're trying to play with?|||My internet is DSL and my browser is firefox...I checked out what you were saying and I think I am experiencing lag (although that has NEVER happened to me in any other situation). My dad however says it sometimes happens when he is playing an online game ink link. I might try and defrag the computer and see if that helps.I really appreciate your help. Thanks a lot.|||Quote:








My internet is DSL and my browser is firefox...I checked out what you were saying and I think I am experiencing lag (although that has NEVER happened to me in any other situation). My dad however says it sometimes happens when he is playing an online game ink link. I might try and defrag the computer and see if that helps.I really appreciate your help. Thanks a lot.




Defragging won't help that much. It's more an issue of your ISP not allocating you the bandwidth that you need or there being interference on the line etc.

Turning off/on the router/modem and trying to let it reconnect can sometimes help a bit.

But in the end only the isp can really effect things. Either that or shop around for a new one.

Also make sure that you're on a realm which is beneficial to your location. That would be the Oceanic servers, which are located on the West Coast of the US, as opposed to the East Coast ones. Farther away the target server is, the bigger the problem can get.|||one more thing that could be a problem is if you are running on the trial client and not the full game. if you are using the trial client it has to stream all the information which makes things run slower. I found I had to wait a couple of minutes when entering a new place before I could talk to NPCs, etc.

if this is the case then installing the full game client will solve most of your problems.|||It can also be your RAM or your video card. What are you running for a system?

...Ren|||Also, how much total RAM do you have and are you running anything in the background when WoW is running?

New Character Advice Please........

Hello,

I want to create a new character to compliment my excisting toons.

I have a:

Gnome-Warlock (Mining and Blacksmithing)

Night Elf-Druid (Alchemy and Herbalism)

Human-Paladin (Blacksmithing and Mining)

As I'm fairly new I would much appreciate any help with Class/Race and Proffesion of my next character to make.

Thank you|||What do you want to play? What playstyle do you favour? Tanking? Healing? Ranged DPS? Melee DPS? Do you want a pet class, or non-pet class?|||Draenei

Jewelcrafting

?????

Profit|||Go Rogue.

Engineering/Skinning

Use your other toons mining to fuel Engineering and Skinning will provide some leathers you'll need. An NE would be good as a Rogue.|||Quote:








Go Rogue.

Engineering/Skinning

Use your other toons mining to fuel Engineering and Skinning will provide some leathers you'll need. An NE would be good as a Rogue.




Not only leathers, but the skinning bonus (Master of Anatomy) gives crit bonuses, which is pure yum with a rogue. My mage is a skinner/tailor for the same reason.

...Ren

Returning after 1.5 year hiatus.. Got Questions..

1) I quit in 2008, shortly before WoLK came out. I just got WoLK yesterday and resubscribed. My lvl 70 has not completed a few high level Outland quests (particularly some elite quests.) Are there any of those quests worth doing before I head to Northrend?

2) I mostly enjoy the PvP aspect of the game esp the BGs.. I hear that twinks are basically dead now. How are the lvl 80 BGs these days? How well does Gear Matching work in practice? Still, I'd much rather play against a comparably equipped group of lvl 80s than stick with the Twink BGs where I don't have access to my character's full range of abilities.

3) Some miscellaneous features.. any of these implemented yet?

- Auctionable enchants

- Group duels

- PvE to PvP transfers

4) Lastly, what do you think of this Feral Druid build for lvl 80?

http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc...00000000000000|||Welcome back :)

1 : If you want to do these quests for sentimental value or for "special" rewards, then do it. YOu will get better rewards, more XP and more people to quest with in Northrend though. I abandoned all quests i had the moment i loaded wotlk :)

2 : I dont do pvp, sorry. Twinks arent dead though, you even have a option to stop XP gain. You will be mathced against other twinks though. There are lvl 60 and lvl 70 twinks decked out in the raid items for these levels. I dont know about gear matching, is this even used ?

3 : you can enchant scrolls now and put these in the AH. Group duels = arena ? Pve to pvp transfers are possible by now.

4 : the druid is about the only clas si have never played. Sorry :) But ask in our druid forum.|||1. Generally, no, they are not worth the time. If you really want to do them, find a guild or something and hope they want to help, lol.

2. Yes. Twinks are essentially dead. Sure, you can have great gear on your x9's... Thing is, when you turn off the exp, you are officially considered a special bracket of your own. No more twink VS regulars anymore.

3. A. Yes. On the AH just go "Scroll of enchant" and it'll have EVERY enchant just about. B. Group duels no, but Arena's still doing well I'd say. C. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that everyone can transfer to any server they want.

4. Immediately noticed you didn't have Primal Gore. Bleeds are a gigantic amount of DPS now, and since you have 35% or higher crit at 80 in blues and greens, I would say it's extremely worth it to get that... Other than that, go check on google for good builds at 80.|||I'm guessing because you said PvP that you'll be going cat form which means you don't need the point in intensity, or the 3 points in nature's focus. max out shredding attacks, primal gore and improved mangle instead and you'll be fine.|||Let me just add to the question about Twinks: I tried to make one about 2 months ago; I made a lv19 holy paladin and gave him semi-decent equipment, then blocked xp gain. I tried 3 evenings in a row, but couldn't get into a game for 1.5 hours, after which I gave up.

Other players have told me that there are a few realms where twinks are still present, but they are really too rare to be enjoyable.

Something else- in Cataclysm there should be a major overhaul of BGs (including ratings). I never bothered looking up details but you may want to.|||Quote:








1) I quit in 2008, shortly before WoLK came out. I just got WoLK yesterday and resubscribed. My lvl 70 has not completed a few high level Outland quests (particularly some elite quests.) Are there any of those quests worth doing before I head to Northrend?

2) I mostly enjoy the PvP aspect of the game esp the BGs.. I hear that twinks are basically dead now. How are the lvl 80 BGs these days? How well does Gear Matching work in practice? Still, I'd much rather play against a comparably equipped group of lvl 80s than stick with the Twink BGs where I don't have access to my character's full range of abilities.

3) Some miscellaneous features.. any of these implemented yet?

- Auctionable enchants

- Group duels

- PvE to PvP transfers

4) Lastly, what do you think of this Feral Druid build for lvl 80?

http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc...00000000000000




1) Same reply here.. I did the same thing and came back in after a long break. I went from 70-80 using a crappy wow leveling guide that skipped all the non phat quests/diversions. I tried picking through the leftover quests but my memory of what I did/didn't was horrible due to my quick skim of the content. Everyone I've asked says "do it if you're really bored only".

2) Twinks seem dead to me. I still see the gear at stupid prices but that's about it?

3) Yes! This is one of the things that got me back into the game. I lost a lot of my RL guildmates to RL stuff like kids and such. Buying enchants off the AH is so cool!

Group PvP happens all the time, on PvP servers.. :)

Don't know for sure both others seem to have you covered on this one! :)

Either way, welcome back! (Good timing with Cataclysm on the way!)

Info

Hi all,

I enjoy playing WOW at a friends house and now looking to buy a PC . Im not looking for a power house of a PC, only one that i can enjoy playing wow comfortable on. The PC im looking at has these specs:

INTEL DUAL CORE 2.6 GHZ

GIGABYTE MOTHERBOARD

WESTERN DIGITAL 320GB HARD DRIVE

ATI 4650 1GB GRAPHICS CARD

500W POWER SUPPLY

DVD-RW

WINDOWS 7 RAIL VERSION

CIT QUALITY ATX CASE

Would this PC allow me to play?

Thanks for any help or advice in advance|||You've left out some important details, like how much RAM is this thing running with and what OS will it use?

Isn't an ATI 4650 one of the older ones?|||Quote:








You've left out some important details, like how much RAM is this thing running with and what OS will it use?

Isn't an ATI 4650 one of the older ones?




Yes sorry,

It has 2GB CORSAIR Ram and windows 7 but will most likely put on XP. not sure if it is old or not. most forums say it should be good but not sure to be honest.|||2 Gig i low, you're going to have lag problems in almost anything after classic content. Go for atleast 4 or more RAM if you can.



-For comparison my Vid card is an ATI 5800 series.|||Quote:








2 Gig i low, you're going to have lag problems in almost anything after classic content. Go for atleast 4 or more RAM if you can.



-For comparison my Vid card is an ATI 5800 series.




Thanks for the info|||Quote:








Thanks for the info




Could i just buy 4gb of ram and just install or does it take more, sorry bit of a noob to adding componets?|||RAM is one of the easiest things to install. Just pop the old sticks out and the new sticks in. I'd recommend going for two sticks of 2 GB.|||Quote:








RAM is one of the easiest things to install. Just pop the old sticks out and the new sticks in. I'd recommend going for two sticks of 2 GB.




Great, I feel better now, went mad on ebay fever and bought it a few minutes ago.

Thanks|||Make sure you get the correct type of RAM (Pin count, type, etc.) for your computer.|||4650 isn't too bad still, it not current generation, but its still pretty good bang for your buck

A few questions before I buy

Ok, so you probably here these questions a lot, but I need to know a few things before I think about paying for an account.

A couple of things about my account first.

1. I am a level 13 Night Elf Hunter

2. I have a level 13 Feral Nightstalker as a pet.

- It's come to my attention that a lot of quests require a group of people rather than a single player. Is this true for a lot of quests? And how does one go about aquiring a permanat group?

- A lot of people ride an animal. I have a pet, but I'd much rather ride one? Wouldn't you? Is this available for me?

- I have been as far as Dark Shore in my time so far. I notice that things are more difficult here and quests are much more difficult. Are all new places like this?

- A friend of mine, who played for around a year and half went upto level 40. He then was told he could change into something else, what was that? And is this something I can still do?

- Are every 10 levels milestones?

- Any tips would be hugely appriciated, as I am considering paying for the full account.

Thanks, Darkraine.
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Ok, so you probably here these questions a lot, but I need to know a few things before I think about paying for an account.

A couple of things about my account first.

1. I am a level 13 Night Elf Hunter

2. I have a level 13 Feral Nightstalker as a pet.

- It's come to my attention that a lot of quests require a group of people rather than a single player. Is this true for a lot of quests? And how does one go about aquiring a permanat group?

- A lot of people ride an animal. I have a pet, but I'd much rather ride one? Wouldn't you? Is this available for me?

- I have been as far as Dark Shore in my time so far. I notice that things are more difficult here and quests are much more difficult. Are all new places like this?

- A friend of mine, who played for around a year and half went upto level 40. He then was told he could change into something else, what was that? And is this something I can still do?

- Are every 10 levels milestones?

- Any tips would be hugely appriciated, as I am considering paying for the full account.

Thanks, Darkraine.





Group quests are common but not necessary. There wouldn't be much need for other players otherwise. We'd all be playing a nice single player RPG.

You don't get a "permanent" group (unless you mean a guild - which is a group of usually like minded people who quest together, help eachother etc). You can join and leave groups whenever you want. You can invite people to join a group. To find a group for a group quest, the best thing to do is ask in chat if anyone would be willing to join you in forming a group.

Yes, everyone can ride a mount at level 20.

Each area has a level range. The game cunningly guides you through increasingly more difficult areas as you gain levels. You'd become terribly overpowered very quickly otherwise.

He was playing a Druid. And no, as a hunter you can't change form.

Yep, but it doesn't really mean anything.

Here's my favourite tip. Use wowwiki.com to find the answer to everything WoW related ;)|||Quote:








Ok, so you probably here these questions a lot, but I need to know a few things before I think about paying for an account.

A couple of things about my account first.

1. I am a level 13 Night Elf Hunter

2. I have a level 13 Feral Nightstalker as a pet.

- It's come to my attention that a lot of quests require a group of people rather than a single player. Is this true for a lot of quests? And how does one go about aquiring a permanat group?

- A lot of people ride an animal. I have a pet, but I'd much rather ride one? Wouldn't you? Is this available for me?

- I have been as far as Dark Shore in my time so far. I notice that things are more difficult here and quests are much more difficult. Are all new places like this?

- A friend of mine, who played for around a year and half went upto level 40. He then was told he could change into something else, what was that? And is this something I can still do?

- Are every 10 levels milestones?

- Any tips would be hugely appriciated, as I am considering paying for the full account.

Thanks, Darkraine.





1. You make friends. You join something called a guild. Basically it's like in real life, when you need help moving, you call your friends. You spend a little time growing a "friends list" of other players who you can call on (and can call on you) for help.

2.All players over level 20 can have mounts, ie...animals to ride. All players can have "vanity" or "companion" pets...ie...pets that do nothing but follow you around Only certain classes can have combat pets...pets that attack for you...hunters, warlocks..etc.

3. Wow has a scaling difficulty zone map. The farther you get away from your spawning zone, the higher the difficulty tends to get. (Until you start running into another race's starting zone, then they go down again)

4. Druids can turn into multiple animals, and shaman have one animal travel form. So it's class specific.

5. Milestones? Usually you get nice spells at that, and the biggie abilities tend to open up on a -0 level.|||Thanks, massive help. Awesome.

Hello everyone!

Hi, I'm using my WoW free trial right now but I plan on becoming a full player within the next few weeks when I get around to it. The games fun but there is still so much more for me to learn and do!

I was just wondering what I could maybe do to find some people to level/hang out with? I need some social interaction, and I don't get much right now. I really would like this when I officailly start up playing soon, don't care what server. But I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick with playing with a troll, just thought it was fun. ^^

Oh, and another thing. Can horde characters access alliance cities? People say that horde and alliance are two different gaming styles, but I don't know what they mean. I'm open to any character really right now, so maybe knowing what this means would be good to start off on the right foot?

Thanks|||Quote:








Hi, I'm using my WoW free trial right now but I plan on becoming a full player within the next few weeks when I get around to it. The games fun but there is still so much more for me to learn and do!

I was just wondering what I could maybe do to find some people to level/hang out with? I need some social interaction, and I don't get much right now. I really would like this when I officailly start up playing soon, don't care what server. But I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick with playing with a troll, just thought it was fun. ^^

Oh, and another thing. Can horde characters access alliance cities? People say that horde and alliance are two different gaming styles, but I don't know what they mean. I'm open to any character really right now, so maybe knowing what this means would be good to start off on the right foot?

Thanks




1. Pick your character and server, play nice with others, be helpful, and keep a somewhat cynical eye on your official forum for your server. (The official forums can be somewhat harsh and negative, take them with a grain of salt and you'll find some nice people on them) Eventually you'll fall into a guild...words to describe what you're looking for...laid back, relaxed, fun, leveling, social guild. Remember, the trial accounts are purposefully restrictive in the level of access they allow to other players...this prevents gold sellers from making hundreds of free accounts and spamming players. It does however leave real new players at a certain disadvantage.

2. The Horde and Alliance are at war. While it's currently a rather cold and stagnant war, this means you cannot access the other faction's cities. Going there will get you attacked and killed. There are, however, neutral cities when you progress in content that will bring you side by side with the other faction's players (Shattrath, Dalaran, The tournament grounds) And remember...that while NPCs have the miraculous ability to speak the other faction's language, you as a player do not.

3. Honestly, as a player fairly experienced with both factions, I see no difference between them in "play styles" or really anything else concrete. It's simply a matter of which visuals or lore story arc you prefer.|||There really isn't any difference between Alliance and Horde, other than aesthetics. Do you think Orcs look sexier/cooler/spiffier/prettier than Humans or vice-versa? Race is about 90-95% aesthetics, and class is the big difference maker.

As for what race/class combo you choose, that's entirely up to you. We can't tell you what to play. The best class is, and forever shall be the <not my class> class. You have to think about what it is you want to do. Do you want to heal? Tank? Deal damage at range? Deal damage up close? Ask yourself these questions and go from there.|||in terms of finding a guild, that will have to wait untill you get the full version of the game, since trial accounts can't join guilds. once you get the full version, head to your race's capital city (for trolls that's Orgrammar). once there you will have access to the trade channel which is a chat channel that links to all the cities of your faction. this is where most guilds advertise. it might take you a while to find a guild you stick with, but be persistant and patient.|||Thanks for the replies, I'm really thankful! But I'm still lost in all this.

There is so much to take in from this game, its very overwhelming. I still can't choose what race/class (I know race doesn't really matter, so mainly class) to be... And that's mostly because I don't want to mess up. What if I put a talent point into a bad talent? Can talents be reset? I still don't understand what exactly a 'raid' is, but it sounds cool. I guess I just want to know more of whats out there, because I want to make sure my character is right when I can do it. I don't want to realize it's not right for me 30 levels in (maybe that's not a lot of levels for you guys?). I've really only touched the Hunter, Shaman, and Warlock classes. But I still don't know whats right for me.

I don't even know if that above stuff even makes sense. I just thought I'd put the ongoing rant inside my head down on the forum and see what it brings. I have so many questions left unanswered, because even the 'intro' stuff seems to pro for me. You have a big thanks for me for replying, actually, just for reading all of this.

EDIT: By the way, semiiramiis, you live in Wisconsin? Epicness!|||Quote:








Thanks for the replies, I'm really thankful! But I'm still lost in all this.

There is so much to take in from this game, its very overwhelming. I still can't choose what race/class (I know race doesn't really matter, so mainly class) to be... And that's mostly because I don't want to mess up. What if I put a talent point into a bad talent? Can talents be reset? I still don't understand what exactly a 'raid' is, but it sounds cool. I guess I just want to know more of whats out there, because I want to make sure my character is right when I can do it. I don't want to realize it's not right for me 30 levels in (maybe that's not a lot of levels for you guys?). I've really only touched the Hunter, Shaman, and Warlock classes. But I still don't know whats right for me.

I don't even know if that above stuff even makes sense. I just thought I'd put the ongoing rant inside my head down on the forum and see what it brings. I have so many questions left unanswered, because even the 'intro' stuff seems to pro for me. You have a big thanks for me for replying, actually, just for reading all of this.

EDIT: By the way, semiiramiis, you live in Wisconsin? Epicness!




There is no permanent mistake in this game. You can reset your talent points, as many times as you can afford. (It goes up each time you do it, until you don't do it for a certain amount of time, then it starts to go back down.)

Raids are game content specifically created for end capped level characters to complete together. The big bosses in the game require a group to successfully complete....so bring friends.

There's no way to know what you'll find best. I was very lucky to stupidly fall into the class for me as my first rolled character, but most people have a few false starts. Usually by level 20 or so, you've gotten a really good idea of whether or not this class is for you. (My four paladins never made it farther than level 13)

We all start as new players. We all had our moments of running into the living room, to wail "I died! What do I do now?!?" at a grinning spouse. Or dying because we...got caught in a corner. Didn't realize that hey...that town is full of elves. I've never seen elves before.... is a BAD thing, when they're alliance elves and you're a horde cow. I've fallen to my death so many times. Discovered that it's possible to throw a non pvp enabled toon into pvp mode... Spent three hours in an instance that I never made it out of the second room of...

Race is, actually, a very important factor. If I was to ask you, off the top of your head, which one is the coolest looking...you'd answer....? (personal coolness factor is very important. If you don't like how it looks, you won't want to play it...and it'll never click)

Yup. I'm currently living in lovely SW Wisconsin. :)|||Thanks for the fast post.

Judging from what you said, I think I'll stick with my Gnome-Warlock for a while... Warlock has attracted my interest the most so far. And I can't think of which other class would be more interesting at this point, so, onward! I guess I don't have to worry about raiding for quite a while then, huh?

Well this is just great... Destro, Demo, or Affli? Decisions decisions decisions...|||Quote:








Thanks for the fast post.

Judging from what you said, I think I'll stick with my Gnome-Warlock for a while... Warlock has attracted my interest the most so far. And I can't think of which other class would be more interesting at this point, so, onward! I guess I don't have to worry about raiding for quite a while then, huh?

Well this is just great... Destro, Demo, or Affli? Decisions decisions decisions...




Just play the game. Just enjoy the game. Play what you want, how you want. You'll run into lots of people who will question your every single decision, but if you want to play a gnome warlock, then by all means. Don't listen to the gnome haters of the game (yes, that includes me) and go for it.

Raiding is not really anything you should be concerned about at this point. Having fun, leveling,meeting new folks, learning your class and the game should be your main goals.|||Uh oh...another one from Wisconsin...

Suggestion, in addition to the advice Semii is giving you, it helps to read up on your class and ho it's builds work, it's role when solo and when in a party.

Wowwiki.com is a good site to look things up as well as this one. Wowhead.com is another one.

You can look up your class for example, http://www.wowwiki.com/Warlock you can find heaps of info on Warlocks and many topics that have to do with them. Warlocks are the Kings of DOT's (damage over time spells) and they have minions. they an create health stones, soul stones and such.



I admit WoW is a learning curve big time, but you're in the right place to ask questions.

BTW, I'm from south Chicago.|||Quote:




Well this is just great... Destro, Demo, or Affli? Decisions decisions decisions...




here's a breakdown of the talent trees for the warlock:

Destro - basically plays like a mage who deal shadow damage. lots of powerful, high cast time spells.

demo - concentrates on your minion, allowing it to do more damage and survive more.

affli - king of the DoTs. able to put multiple DoTs on multiple targets for more damage.

when I first started, I found it easier to look at the individual talents than at the whole talent tree. look along the first row of all the talent trees and see which talent will benefit you the most. once you get more experienced you'll be able to pick a whole talent tree based on your play-style.

The Rend Skill

Hey,

I'm new to playing World of Warcraft and I'm struggling to calculate the mechanics for the Rend skill. I'm curious if anyone know how this skill is calculated, this is what I have so far;

(R2)

40 + 34 (Not sure how the 34 is calculated either but done for me in the tooltip) = 74

74 / 15secs = 4.93

Now that should mean that for every second this skill is active (total of 15 seconds according to the tooltip) the skill should deal 4.93 DMG but it doesn't it deals 14. Now to get 14 DMG I have to do;

4.93 * 3 = 14 (I did this because some websites seem to say that each tick is 3 seconds during the 15 seconds.

As you can see I'm getting really confused and struggling to work out a perfect build.

Please help shine some light on this matter.|||in addition to the base damage of the skill, rend also does bonus damage based on the weapon you're using, the slower the weapon speed, the more damage done. this is where the extra damage is coming from. then just to complicate things a bit more, rend does 35% more damage if the target is above 75% health.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Rend will give you the formula for rend's extra damage|||I wouldnt realy bother to calculate it, to be honest ^^ If you realy need to know something, there is always somebody who did the math, you just need to find it ^^ But taking all factors in account is gonna take you ages :)

Having Problems

Sorry first of all for making another thread, I just feel that this needs it.

Right now, I feel a little lost in WoW - As I have just started, and I am level 13. I don't seem to be able to find any quests that I can do on my own. They are all far too hard for a level 13 hunter to take on and I don't really know what to do now.

I keep trying to find new quests, places, and such like but I just cannot find any. I don't know how I'm suppose to do them and level up?

I really need help finding out what levels I can get stuff at, and that kind of thing. Like a list of level - items.

Right now, I can't seem to stay alive very long whilst questing, any other options to level up?
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Sorry first of all for making another thread, I just feel that this needs it.

Right now, I feel a little lost in WoW - As I have just started, and I am level 13. I don't seem to be able to find any quests that I can do on my own. They are all far too hard for a level 13 hunter to take on and I don't really know what to do now.

I keep trying to find new quests, places, and such like but I just cannot find any. I don't know how I'm suppose to do them and level up?

I really need help finding out what levels I can get stuff at, and that kind of thing. Like a list of level - items.

Right now, I can't seem to stay alive very long whilst questing, any other options to level up?





I know what you are...what I need to know now is where you are. If, at your level, you're off of Teldrassil, (edit...apparently Darkshore is 9-25...you may be headed the wrong direction deeper into the higher level part, Auberdine should offer you an array of appropriately leveled quests?)you left too early for a new player. You can also travel to the human starting zone by a convenient boat from Auberdine and do the quests there. Also, how upgraded is your account? This will let me know if the Draenei starting zones (also conveniently located) are an option. Don't know what I just asked? Pretty easy...did you pay for the Burning Crusade expansion, are you only playing classic? Trial?

(PS- There's no need to bold your posts. Hear you just fine without it.)|||I am playing Trial and I am currently in Stormwind, which has taught me to weild Swords and such like. How do I learn to weild Mail?

There are small quests here. But kind of fun :P|||Quote:








I am playing Trial and I am currently in Stormwind, which has taught me to weild Swords and such like. How do I learn to weild Mail?

There are small quests here. But kind of fun :P




You probably aren't high enough to learn mail, I think it's level 40 for hunters (the same as shaman) Remember, the further away you travel from a race's spawn point, (humans spawn just outside of Stormwind) the higher the quests. Travel east from Stormwind and you'll find higher. You should start by reading your class overview

http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter|||Ok, I learned a great deal from that. Should I do what people call "Level Grinding"? bascially kill stuff till you level up?

Or, should I try to find a group to attack with?

Thanks|||Honestly, at lower levels, it's more of a pain to get a group together for the few quests that might need one than is really necessary. I'd suggest solo leveling until you reach the level of the first instance you can visit. (For the Alliance, I'm thinking this is Deadmines... which is about level 20ish... <My history with the Alliance is spotty>) Then if you see people looking for dps for Deadmines, see if they'll take you. I don't think Deadmines is accessible through the cross server dungeon finder...if I'm wrong, well...they'll let us know.

I'm not a great fan of "grind" leveling. Quests help break up the monotony of killing things, are occasionally there to help teach you an aspect of the game, and sometimes give good rewards.|||Most quests require you to kill a bunch of things so why not quest rather than just kill a bunch of things? It's more efficient.|||Quote:




Honestly, at lower levels, it's more of a pain to get a group together for the few quests that might need one than is really necessary. I'd suggest solo leveling until you reach the level of the first instance you can visit. (For the Alliance, I'm thinking this is Deadmines... which is about level 20ish... <My history with the Alliance is spotty>) Then if you see people looking for dps for Deadmines, see if they'll take you. I don't think Deadmines is accessible through the cross server dungeon finder...if I'm wrong, well...they'll let us know.




the dungeon finder tool becomes available at level 15, and since it teleports you to the instance once the group is made, you can do instances in the other faction's area. for example, at level 15 you'll have access to RageFire Chasm, the entrance to which is located in the Orc capital of Orgrammar. the dungeon finder works for all instances and it will automatically group you withh people of your level range to do the instance.

in Stormwind, go to the hunter trainer (ask a guard for directions) and they will bring up a list of hunter skills, what those skills do, and what level you can learn them. new skills become available every 2 levels (10, 12, 14, 16, etc.) so make sure you go back to the trainer to buy new skills and upgrade your existing skills.

at level 13 you should have tamed your first pet. when leveling, send your pet in first to attack a mob. the enemy then focuses on the pet while you shoot them from far away. you then take 0 damage and the mob dies quickly. use your tracking skills to help locate clumps of enemies and named quest mobs.

EDIT: for questing in the human lands, go south along the road from stormwind until you get to the villiage of Goldshire. from there, turn west and follow the road until you get to Westfall. this is the level 10-20 area and there will be plenty of quests for you to do. once in Westfall, follow the road south until you come to Sentinel Hill. most of the quests are located here and should take you up to around level 20. do the quest chains and they will eeventually give you a "bread-crumb" quest which will take you to the next leveling zone (redridge mountains).|||can you use the RDF with the trial version?|||Quote:








at level 13 you should have tamed your first pet. when leveling, send your pet in first to attack a mob. the enemy then focuses on the pet while you shoot them from far away. you then take 0 damage and the mob dies quickly. use your tracking skills to help locate clumps of enemies and named quest mobs.




Most helpful information in my opinion. Dying all the time is no fun. As a hunter the rule is: If you're getting hit you're doing it wrong. Your pet is supposed to be taking the hits while you ploink arrows in the mob's butt. If your pet can't hold aggro then perhaps you're not letting it growl. Also: give your pet a hit or two before opening up with your shots.

New to WOW and want to upgrade

Hey guys, Im new WoW and just downloaded the 10 day trial. I really like the game and wanna purchase it for real. What is the best way to purchase WoW... box fro gamestop, download from the internet.. there are so many different ones.. I dont know which one to choose??? can u help me out?!?|||Quote:








Hey guys, Im new WoW and just downloaded the 10 day trial. I really like the game and wanna purchase it for real. What is the best way to purchase WoW... box fro gamestop, download from the internet.. there are so many different ones.. I dont know which one to choose??? can u help me out?!?




It depends. The World of Warcraft battlechest has both classic World of Warcraft and The Burning Crusade expansion bundled in it. You can find it in most stores which carry games. This is a good start. But paying for an account upgrade online and downloading it is pretty much the same if you don't care about having a row of boxes to stare at.

Just remember, must have classic. Adding expansions require classic, and each previous expansion, you cannot skip purchasing any of them to go on to later content. Confused? You can't buy Classic, skip Burning Crusade, and upgrade straight to Wrath of the Lich King. Somehow, someway, for a fully upgraded account, you're going to need to purchase them all.

But to begin, you don't need anything but Classic World of Warcraft, unless you have your heart set on a draenei or blood elf as your character.|||Quote:








Hey guys, Im new WoW and just downloaded the 10 day trial. I really like the game and wanna purchase it for real. What is the best way to purchase WoW... box fro gamestop, download from the internet.. there are so many different ones.. I dont know which one to choose??? can u help me out?!?




Personally, I like to have the discs on hand in case of catastrophe (my house is hit by a nuclear explosion or the cats eat the computer, that sort of thing). When new Recruit a Friend accounts were set up here we bought two Battlechests. They're surprisingly inexpensive (think they were about �8.95 each on Amazon) and you probably don't need Wrath of the Lich King until you've levelled your characters up quite a bit.

Come to think of it, in case of a nuclear explosion I wouldn't likely still have the discs, would I? Probably wouldn't need them either, come to think of it.|||You're an Engineer dammit!

You will survive any nuclear explosion by using your handy shield belt...or something!|||Quote:








You're an Engineer dammit!

You will survive any nuclear explosion by using your handy shield belt...or something!




Need another three Nukebombium Bars to make it and there's none on the AH and the Transmutation process takes soooooooo long........|||I got a bank full...

(Modhax)|||I like the row of pretty boxes. And I like watching visitors' confusion as they try to figure out the logic of:

World of Warcraft x3

The Burning Crusade x3

Wrath of the Lich King x3|||Quote:








I got a bank full...

(Modhax)




Figgers. And this weekend they go on the AH and you make a bundle, right?|||Quote:








I like the row of pretty boxes. And I like watching visitors' confusion as they try to figure out the logic of:

World of Warcraft x3

The Burning Crusade x3

Wrath of the Lich King x3




We've got a shelf full too. And I love it when visitors (like yours) say 'But you mean you had to buy a whole new game for each one of you that's playing????? How much did each one cost you??????' They obviously think we're insane. Maybe we are. But it's an enjoyable kind of insanity.|||Quote:








We've got a shelf full too. And I love it when visitors (like yours) say 'But you mean you had to buy a whole new game for each one of you that's playing????? How much did each one cost you??????' They obviously think we're insane. Maybe we are. But it's an enjoyable kind of insanity.




Meh, those are usually the same people who don't see a problem with spending 40 dollars a week on their beer habits and 70 dollars a week on their cigarette habits.

Mentalities are weird. My son used to belong to a really great organization, and during the two years he was a member, I would drive him 50 miles one way, and then wait around for three-four hours until he was done, and drive back. My sister in law said I was crazy... I turned around and asked her how it was any different from them driving their girl all over Kingdom Come to play sports, waiting for hours, etc.

I have just been cheated, is there anywhere I can get reliable wow gold?

I have just been cheated by a little ****ty gold site, my gold was ordered three days ago but unbelievably i haven�t received it up to now!!! I have phoned the customer service again and again and again but I get no more response than waiting!

I am really curious that, if the gold comes from outer space, for I have to spend three days or even more time to wait.

I hope that there will be some one who can understand my angst, and tell me how to deal with the days without wow.|||No sympathy here. You get what you deserve.|||I'm just waiting for the follow-up spam post, advertising a real trustworthy site.|||Quote:








I have phoned the customer service again and again and again but I get no more response than waiting!




You have to call the blizzard customer service and explain them that you bought gold and it didint arrive. They will then help you.|||

And here, boys and girls, is only part of the reason why we wholeheartedly suggest NOT purchasing gold.|||To be sure, this can't have been a serious post... and if it were, well, take Twoflower's advice and run with it.|||Learn something new every day. Apparently gold comes from outer space.|||Is there a more generic name than 'Mary Smith'? That alone ought to have alerted everyone to the fact that this is another questionable first post.|||Quote:




is there anywhere I can get reliable wow gold?




No.



Ten characters.|||Ten characters is a great way to SPEND gold. :D

...Ren

Big question!

Are you able to play World of Warcraft without the use of a keyboard? I'm disabled and use my mouse to type and play. I just wanted to know more before I try.|||You can, but typing and chat is going to be tough, and using a keyboard to churn out moves on your hotbar is a lot easier then clicking them with the mouse.|||It's possible, but it is not the most efficient way. My suggestion is to use a lot of ventspeak and carefully judge which class is best set up for this.|||Alternatively, you could get a mouse which has multiple buttons to it and you can bind your spells and such to various buttons on the mouse, although those mice tend to lean on the expensive side somewhat.|||I'd suggest a ranged dps character.

I wonder if it's possible to have voice recognition type in the chat box for you?|||Quote:




I wonder if it's possible to have voice recognition type in the chat box for you?




it could be possible. the software is available which can put the words you speak into a word processor. then all it would take is an addon to paste the words into the chat box.|||When my wife plays, unless for chat and logging in she hardly ever uses her keyboard. Bar the chatting you can do anything with some virtual keyboard.

She plays a hunter.|||you could do it definitely. i think it would be a arcane mage because they just use a very simple 1 1 1 1 2 where 1 is arcane blast and 2 is arcane missles. you can bind those to a normal mouse's wheel up(1) and wheel down(2) thing in the middle. to make it even easier you can macro cooldowns with arcane blast and not have to worry about using them. to move press down on both mouse keys to move forward and drag mouse left and right to turn. you can still click some abilities that you sometime use. for leveling a mage its pretty simple too. you need frostbolt for single target and blizzard for multi target. for this setup im talking about pve only as you need to strafe and make use of many more abilities to pvp. but from purely pve standpoint i dont see how using only your mouse to play has any disadvantage over other players.|||I only use the keyboard to move backwards and forwards, apart from that I'm a mouse clicker.

It's probably why I'm not very good playing my DK, I simply click everything on the bar that starts glowing :)|||Quote:








you could do it definitely. i think it would be a arcane mage because they just use a very simple 1 1 1 1 2 where 1 is arcane blast and 2 is arcane missles. you can bind those to a normal mouse's wheel up(1) and wheel down(2) thing in the middle. to make it even easier you can macro cooldowns with arcane blast and not have to worry about using them. to move press down on both mouse keys to move forward and drag mouse left and right to turn. you can still click some abilities that you sometime use. for leveling a mage its pretty simple too. you need frostbolt for single target and blizzard for multi target. for this setup im talking about pve only as you need to strafe and make use of many more abilities to pvp. but from purely pve standpoint i dont see how using only your mouse to play has any disadvantage over other players.




Bah, mages still do too much running around. Not like hunters who just let their pet do the legwork.

Banned /starting up again

Just to clear it.

I was dumb enough to buy gold, and got the punishment for it as a perm ban.

Guts as I just got my hunter to 70 (first character ever that high), was getting over the huntard anyway.

Well first, if my account gets banned and I make a new one can I be banned for making another one or is that alright?

Secondly, im playing a lock. Good idea/bad idea?

Thanks for any suggestions just wanna clear stuff up.|||You wont get banned on a new account for things that you did with your old account.

If playing a warlock is a good idea or not depends. Do you have fun playing him ? If yes, then it is a good idea.

And yes, buying gold is bad :)|||Ahh cheers, I'm not sure ae just hate leveling anything below about 30 I will level him up and see what its like with dungeons and stuff and then decide I guess?|||On the warlock question:

I like Hunters a lot but couldn't get used to the Warlock. I had much more downtime because of mana issues (until life tap starts working properly, around lvl 40). Demons don't hold agro as well as Hunter pets. I play a lot of Battlegrounds while I level and founds that Warlocks aren't as strong as Hunters (though this changes dramatically at higher levels). And I found that with the WL DoTs it's hard to control my agro in (low-level) instances.

If you like having a pet but don't want to make another Hunter, the Warlock may be your best choice. If you want easy solo leveling, I can recommend a Rogue or Paladin (and maybe a Shaman). If you play a lot of PvP like me, Rogue or Hunter are probably your best choices.|||If you don't mind not having a pet, pick a druid, get 4 classes rolled into one|||I've learned something from this thread. I thought if you were permanently banned, that was it. I realise there are ways of signing on and not identifying yourself as the guy they'd banned, but I suppose I thought Blizzard was clairvoyant and would know it was you.|||Blizzard bans the account, not the individual. If you want to buy a new game with a new account and start from scratch, Blizzard will be more than willing to take your money.

gamecard

hi i used to paid in credit card but these days are over now and i want to make a new account but to pay in credit card.

can i make account pay in gamecard after the 2 mounths were finished but another gamecard and pay agian or every account can only do one gamecard please tell me today couse i am want to play today please ty|||btw how do i know when u replied?|||Every account can individually have a credit card attached. If you enter a gamecard code as well you're just delaying your next credit card charge.

Overall I recommend using your credit card on all your accounts because it's quite convenient and easy to use.

Help Gear a Squishy Newcomer for 60+

Returning player here on his second day, glad to be back!

Any veterans here able to help outfit a newcomer? Much of my old gear is probably obsolete, but I don't know which to toss.

I'm looking for basic advice on found items, since I'm too poor and too new to rely on anything requiring raiding or reputation. That's fine: it looks like Outlands drops will quickly outclass my old Molten Core and Blackrock gear.

I'm playing a PvE warlock who runs solo or in small groups. Here are the kinds of questions I'm facing:

  • how do I value +Spell Power versus +Critical Strike?

  • how useful is +Intellect in terms of damage?

    I see that it adds to Critical Strike; is an item with 10 more intellect as useful as one with 3 more Critical Strike, or Spell Power?

  • Is there any need in Burning Crusade for my old Molten Core resist-fire gear?



Many thanks!|||Quote:








Returning player here on his second day, glad to be back!

Any veterans here able to help outfit a newcomer? Much of my old gear is probably obsolete, but I don't know which to toss.

I'm looking for basic advice on found items, since I'm too poor and too new to rely on anything requiring raiding or reputation. That's fine: it looks like Outlands drops will quickly outclass my old Molten Core and Blackrock gear.

I'm playing a PvE warlock who runs solo or in small groups. Here are the kinds of questions I'm facing:

  • how do I value +Spell Power versus +Critical Strike?

  • how useful is +Intellect in terms of damage?

    I see that it adds to Critical Strike; is an item with 10 more intellect as useful as one with 3 more Critical Strike, or Spell Power?

  • Is there any need in Burning Crusade for my old Molten Core resist-fire gear?



Many thanks!




Outland will indeed make your level 60 gear obsolete. I had gotten rid of my MC gear by level 62, my Aurastone Hammer by 64. You will not need your MC fire resist gear anymore...even if you go into the few resist fights in BC you'll want much better resist gear than you currently have. I'll let the dps specialists attack the nuts and bolts numbers here.|||the stats you need to focus on are dictated a bit by the build you are running. someone might need to correct me on this but IIRC you need a higher crit rating for destro but affliction requires more SP.

if you're not sure which build you want, take a look at the link below. it nicely lists the strengths and weaknesses of the different talent trees since alot has changed since TBC came out.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Warlock_talent_analysis|||Quote:








Outland will indeed make your level 60 gear obsolete...You will not need your MC fire resist gear anymore....




Great - you just freed a bag for me, thank you!

I will miss the Terror-when-hit proc of the Deathmist set, but the new gear outshines it in every other way.




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the stats you need to focus on are dictated a bit by the build you are running. someone might need to correct me on this but IIRC you need a higher crit rating for destro but affliction requires more SP.




Good point. I'm embarrassed to post my build, since it would make DPS fiends cringe. But I'm running largely solo (I love teaming, but I have blocks of one and two hours in the day for play, not suited to raiding), so I need more survivability:

http://www.wowhead.com/talent#If0MZfGfukAdV0oMzZVo

I went Demonologist to Felguard and added basic Affliction, and now will go to Shadowburn in Affliction. I know nothing about Metamorphosis yet; if it looks like a good match for me, I'll go that route. If not, I'll get Ruin and Amplify Curse.

My damage comes mostly from Affliction, and I have little bonus to increased crit. Does that suggest I should lean toward Spell Power?



How do you weigh the value of an item with high Stamina vs slightly higher Spell Power?|||Stamina isn't a priority for DPS, unless you're doing endgame PvP. In endgame raids, if you're getting beaten on, you're probably going to be dead regardless of how much stamina you have. OK, it might give you a slightly higher chance of surviving, but Stamina will come as it comes. Don't worry about it, unless, as I said, you're looking more at PvP (BGs, Arenas) than you are at endgame Raiding.|||Something else to consider is that simply by doing the Outlands quests you end up better geared at 58-60 than you would with old world gear (and the same will happen at 67-70 with Northrend gear). I'd say just run the quests and each piece that is warlock appropriate, you will probably replace it, regardless of the specific stats - it's still going to outclass most of what you already have.|||Quote:








Stamina isn't a priority for DPS, unless you're doing endgame PvP. In endgame raids, if you're getting beaten on, you're probably going to be dead regardless of how much stamina you have.




It's for questing. It helps a bit with survivability, but it's mostly a mana battery via Life Tap. I don't need to rest very often.


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Something else to consider is that simply by doing the Outlands quests you end up better geared at 58-60 than you would with old world gear (and the same will happen at 67-70 with Northrend gear).




That's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks.

I've read suggestions of staying in the Outlands until 70 if you need gold, which I do (I'm no farmer, but I'd like to afford basics, like mount training, and I'm frighteningly poor).

But your note above makes it sound better to go to Northrend sooner. Any advice there?|||Quote:








It's for questing. It helps a bit with survivability, but it's mostly a mana battery via Life Tap. I don't need to rest very often.



That's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks.

I've read suggestions of staying in the Outlands until 70 if you need gold, which I do (I'm no farmer, but I'd like to afford basics, like mount training, and I'm frighteningly poor).

But your note above makes it sound better to go to Northrend sooner. Any advice there?




At 68, go to Northrend. You haven't told us your faction, so....

If you're Horde, Howling Fjord is a nicer starting place to leap off from. I suggest doing it first, then travelling to Borean Tundra.

I believe it's the opposite for the Alliance but I got my poor, abused Alliance toon barely onto Northrend before I started asking myself why I was doing that, all over again...|||It really depends on what you want out of it - me, I prefer to level a bit faster, so heading to Northrend for the final 2-3 levels leading into 70 made more sense - the experience is radically better and the quest rewards a shift upwards, just like the old world to Outland jump.

I think the gold just comes along with it, honestly. I didn't see much advantage to being in Outland for gold after 68 once LK came out - the rewards were better in Northrend, plus if you've a gathering profession, then you have that to work with as well.

It's somewhat unfortunate that the rewards didn't stay somewhat in tune from one expansion to the next - it was such a huge leap upwards that it essentially meant the last couple of levels were better off spent doing the early material of the next expansion, rather than the final material of the previous one. A lot depends on what you want out of it - it sounds like you stopped playing before BC, right? If that's the case, then you might take a bit longer to see some of the 'endgame' content from that expansion, just to see it. But if you want to progress as quickly as possible to current endgame, then spending time in Outland from 68-70 ends up being a bit of wasted time, since you'll want the better gear from Northrend sooner rather than later.|||Quote:




I believe it's the opposite for the Alliance but I got my poor, abused Alliance toon barely onto Northrend before I started asking myself why I was doing that, all over again...




I found the Tundra alot better for Alliance than the Fjord because there was alot less moving about and I didn't have a flying mount the first time I quested there.

Help activating my account

Basically, a couple of years ago, before the switch to battle.net accounts i played WOW, since then my account has been hacked, so when i tried to recover my account of battle.net i sort of couldn't because whoever had hacked it had already upgraded it with new password new name combination and stuff.

So it was a while ago and i thought i would just start again and get a trial account, my 10 days has finished and now i realize i need to put in a CD key to activate it, or pay �9.99, but of course the CD key is linked to a different account which i cannot access, i dont want to pay another �10 because someone hacked my old account.

Does anyone have an advice for me please?|||If you have your old CD key, you can contact Blizzard Billing and Accounting and explain your situation. They may be able to restore your old account.

...Ren

I dont understand the chat system

Hi, Ive been playing for 2 weeks now and have never chat to anyone becuase i just dont understand how. I dont understand all the acronims and abbv words, its gobbdegook to me, but im at the stage where i need help and I dont know how to go about it.

I seem to have lost my trade channel, but how do you speak in it, whenever i try to speak nothing happens.

Its almost enough to put me off WOW.

Is there a help guide on using the chat channels i can be directed to?

thanks|||http://www.wowwiki.com/Chat

Simple :)|||Quote:








Hi, Ive been playing for 2 weeks now and have never chat to anyone becuase i just dont understand how. I dont understand all the acronims and abbv words, its gobbdegook to me, but im at the stage where i need help and I dont know how to go about it.

I seem to have lost my trade channel, but how do you speak in it, whenever i try to speak nothing happens.

Its almost enough to put me off WOW.

Is there a help guide on using the chat channels i can be directed to?

thanks




/1 is usually your zone channel.

/3 is usually trade if you are in a city, if you don't see it...I'm guessing you're probably not in a city anymore.

But honestly, you'll pick the jargon up. What help did you need?|||Quote:








/1 is usually your zone channel.

/3 is usually trade if you are in a city, if you don't see it...I'm guessing you're probably not in a city anymore.

But honestly, you'll pick the jargon up. What help did you need?




Thanks, I just want to join a hunt, help out, get involved, try some dungeons. but im scared of being too noob and mucking up peoples game. im only a lvl 16 rogue and been playing wow for only a week of 2.

its exciting as i dont know what to do, where to go etc, but im scared to put my hand up and offer in on a hunt of something. I also need help with a couple of quests qhich are pretty hard.|||Quote:








Thanks, I just want to join a hunt, help out, get involved, try some dungeons. but im scared of being too noob and mucking up peoples game. im only a lvl 16 rogue and been playing wow for only a week of 2.

its exciting as i dont know what to do, where to go etc, but im scared to put my hand up and offer in on a hunt of something.




A hunt? Not quite sure what that is.

There are a couple of instances at this level, but at your experience, I'd work a little more on grasping your character first. (I didn't do a single instance until I was level 55...in Vanilla. While this is extreme, and no, I don't suggest it, it might be best to learn the game a little more)

I suggest finding a nice leveling/social guild to help you.|||Thanks, yes wow is far more complicated than i gave it credit for. best just have fun and enjot the ride!

one question though, how do i find out how much an item is worth? I found some pretty nice stuff to sell i think, i try to see what others sell for on the AH, but is there a website telling roughly what things are worth?

thanks|||Quote:








Thanks, yes wow is far more complicated than i gave it credit for. best just have fun and enjot the ride!

one question though, how do i find out how much an item is worth? I found some pretty nice stuff to sell i think, i try to see what others sell for on the AH, but is there a website telling roughly what things are worth?

thanks




There is an addon called auctioneer that does somewhat, and there are a couple of websites (wowhead) that do as well. But the best is to learn your server's economy, since they're all different.|||thanks, semiiramiis that site looks very good, ill spend some time reading up. appreciate all your help.

Which Melee Hybrid to pick?

After I outgrew my Priest, so I decided I want to make a melee hybrid class. I've narrowed it down to:

Shaman (Enhancement, Resto for PvE)

Druid (Feral, Resto for PvE)

maybe

Death Knight :)

I'm looking for:

1. Able to perform well in PvP

2. Able to level at a good speed

3. Plain fun :)

I'm open to any suggestions, and any help would be useful|||They'll all level at good speeds.

I'm going to warn you right now, that currently, Enhancement Shaman are terrible in PvP. They lack the slows, stuns and general "close the distance" (stealth, charge) abilities of other melee classes. Without those, the ranged classes will simply kite you to death, whereas other melee classes will have a better chance at getting the jump on you.

The days of one-shotting a prot specced warrior in full Grand Marshal gear with windfury/flury crit procs are long gone.

Feral Kitty druids fare quite a bit better as they have stealth and Death Knights have death grip, chains of ice and Unholy spec has permanent ghoul which has a stun.

However, whichever you choose is, like all other class decisions, is yours and whatever you really want.|||Quote:








After I outgrew my Priest, so I decided I want to make a melee hybrid class. I've narrowed it down to:

Shaman (Enhancement, Resto for PvE)

Druid (Feral, Resto for PvE)

maybe

Death Knight :)

I'm looking for:

1. Able to perform well in PvP

2. Able to level at a good speed

3. Plain fun :)

I'm open to any suggestions, and any help would be useful




Pvp? With the three mentioned...my first choice would be Death Knight. As noted, enh shaman are not the shaman pvp spec most commonly suggested (ele is) but then, I pvp'ed as resto, in my pve raiding gear. (How'd that go for me? Better than you might guess.)

Druids do well, and are pretty versatile.

Death Knights, for all of their pve issues (and those are usually other players' issues with them...as in, there are too many. Too many new players speed leveled them after choosing the easiest path to get one, etc...etc...etc) are a blast to play and are very strong in pvp. I'm not entirely certain I would personally classify them as "hybrid" but they eat faces.|||Enh shamans do have a place in Arenas. Together with a BM Hunter they form a decent 2v2 team, and with an added Holy Paladins good 3v3 (this is called 'Beast Cleave').

Their mobility comes from Ghost Wolf form combined with Earthbind totem. They fall short in terms of damage, at least until lvl 60 when they get Feral Spirit (2 temporary wolf pets). They are somewhat hard to play because for maximum damage you need to keep several cooldowns running at the same time (Stormstrike, Feral Spirit, Earth Shock, Lightning Shield).

I agree that Feral Druids are stronger in Battlegrounds, mainly because of stealth. They are less common in Arenas though, and my personal experience (leveling until 30 doing lots of BGs) is that a cat druid is quite simple to play, though I was missing the utility skills of my Rogue.

Both the druid and the shaman are excellent healers in PvE, and both are fun to level.

I have no idea about DKs in PvP. If I meet one in a BG (with my Hunter, Rogue or Shaman) I expect a tough fight; they're hard to beat 1v1.

Looking for a WoW leveling buddy (EU servers)

Hello everyone, I'm thinking of coming back to WoW. I think the reason I quit last time was because A. end game got to a bit of a grind fest and B. No people to level with, I was ok on my main character as I had a guild, but I wanted to start a new character but couldn't find anyone.

So I was thinking what's the opposite of end game and having noone to level with? Beginning game and having someone to play with, ofcourse

Really just looking for anyone who truely wants to level a character, not quit on level 10 or something :) We can do all the quests together and do dungeons and maybe even PvP sometimes if you feel like it. We can truely become BFF

Also we can use Teamspeak or Ventrilo if you like, I have a public server on both programs we can use if you want to use them.

I'm on quite a bit so you won't have to worry about me not being on, if you're not online then I'll just log out of the character we're playing on and I have a rogue that I can level.

Feel free to add me on MSN: bigfoot349@live.co.uk

Oh p.s I don't mind which server or race we are. Except maybe Draenai(sp).

Thanks guys, and really nice site you have here, keep up the good work.|||Hi, welcome back to wow! unfortunately I don't think you'll find anyone here to level with. this is partly because we are split between EU and US realms, plus some of us don't actually play anymore and the ones who do have already leveled more characters than they would ever want. thats not to say that you won't find someone to level with here, but its unlikely. your best bet is to use the recruit-a-friend system with someone in-game or a RL friend. information for it can be found on the official website.

goodluck|||i can level with you prefer RP realm|||I'm looking for a lvling partner too. I'm a lvl 11 lock on Arthas..|||Quote:








I'm looking for a lvling partner too. I'm a lvl 11 lock on Arthas..




This is the second time you've posted this, but I'm gonna cut you some slack here with a couple of explanations.

1. The original poster of this thread cannot play with you, since you and he are essentially playing separate games. He's almost undoubtedly playing the EU client on an EU server, and you're almost undoubtedly playing the US client on an US server. This means even if he wanted to, he couldn't play with you, since you don't exist on his servers.

2. This website's rules state no double posting. Decide where a post goes, post it once, and that's it.|||Hi , I play every now and then and have decided to start again soon once i have sorted out my game , i play on wildhammer eu server ,my main character is about lvl 46 gnome mage but i like having alts and i tend to play them alot.

characters titles? (not sure check the post :P)

ok.... i hav the feeling of being left out when ppl hav these kind of titles... eg. in WSG or instances, ppl name hav this kind of name <character name> (*)

the (*) can be like proudmoore or Aman Thul

so my question is... wat r they?? how can i get one?? thx guys|||Quote:








ok.... i hav the feeling of being left out when ppl hav these kind of titles... eg. in WSG or instances, ppl name hav this kind of name <character name> (*)

the (*) can be like proudmoore or Aman Thul

so my question is... wat r they?? how can i get one?? thx guys




Those aren't titles. Those are server identifiers. Every person not from your server has one when you look at them. Therefore you have one...whatever your server is....when THEY look at you. (In battlegrounds.)

So my main, in a bg where you're from a different server, would be: Damaris of Thunder Bluff (*Runetotem) Her name is Damaris. Her title is "of Thunder Bluff". Her server is Runetotem.|||And if they don't have it they are from the same server as you. (but that's kinda obvious anyway)|||ahhhh but i cant see them???|||Quote:








ahhhh but i cant see them???




You can't see yours. It assumes you know what server you're from. (So... All I see is Damaris, of Thunder Bluff.) And yeah, you can't see the server of players on the same server as yourself, so if you were also from Runetotem, all you would see was Damaris of Thunder Bluff as well.

Basically, because battlegrounds are cross server now, you may run into multiple toons of the same name ... (There were over 60 toons named Damaris the last time I looked) but there is only one of them on each server. (Only one Damaris, on Runetotem) This is how you tell them apart...for reputation (God! I hate that Damaris! Noob! Oh, wait...wrong Damaris....) or for armory purposes.|||Damarises? Damari? Damarisi?|||Quote:








Damarises? Damari? Damarisi?




Faced this exact question with the post. Contemplated it. Took revolting care to word post to where I didn't have to deal with it. Will stick with the "Toons named Damaris" cop out.|||Quote:








Faced this exact question with the post. Contemplated it. Took revolting care to word post to where I didn't have to deal with it. Will stick with the "Toons named Damaris" cop out.




You pick one and I'll use it.|||Wintrow, Winterow, Wintrowoo, Wintro, Winto
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Wintrow, Winterow, Wintrowoo, Wintro, Winto






They're talking plurals of damaris. Wintrow is pretty easy IMO, it's either wintrows or wintrow (assuming a collective)

:D

Lack of people or interaction, why so?

Hi Im new to wow and one thing i have noticed that im always on my own and everywhere seems to be deserted. Im level 8 doing some quests, but I want to fight in a group, loot, and make gold.

What do people actually do apart from quests? I like ganking preferably, maybe Wow does not gank or its not set up for faction type PVP.

I played UO about 8-9 yrs ago and it was hard to beat for PVP and PVM, items ganking etc, I also played EVE which, i think is in a class of its own.

I guess I should give WOW more time, but my initial impressions are its maybe a bit too 'kiddy friendly' for me.

I guess i like sandbox MMO's like UO and EVE, you dont feel like you are just doing the same old stuff everyone else has done, there seems to be little variation or excitement in WOW on first impressions, I hope I'm wrong. but its just looks, and plays like GW.

What I want to know is what is the most popular server for PVP? and can you gank in WOW, there barly seems to be enough players to me.

Thanks a lot.

PS I have toons on Al Akir (PVP) and Argent dawn (RP) both appear to be empty|||you're level 8, you don't generally start seeing people in the world till about level 20, but after level 10 you can start doing battlegrounds, organised PVP scenarios|||At level 8, you're not going to be doing much except questing and leveling and more solo play as opposed to being in a group.

The game does not really pick up all that much in content that early level wise. Also most classes do not come into thier own until around the high teens or level 20 atleast. The first instances you would be able to get into are mid to high teens and the Looking for Group interface does not become available until level 15.

I don't know if you're Horde or Alliance, but for the Alliance, The Deadmines will be the first instance you get into at around levels 15-18. If you're Horde than it will be Ragefire Chasm at around the same levels.

Also as to PvP... at level 8, there isn't much. You can't get into a Battleground until level 10 and at that point the onl Battleground you can enter will be WSG (Warsong Gulch) but you will be getting ganked and not doing any ganking because at level 10, you will be at the bottom of the level 10-19 Battleground Bracket, and you will literally get your rear handed to you by level 19 twinks.

There's plenty of Gankin going on especially on a PvP server and there's plenty of Cross Faction PvP going on, from Battle Grounds, to Random World PvP, to full blown raids on opposing faction capitals. It's just not going to be available to you at level 8.

Also take into account that many of us are level 80 and either Raiding, or running battlegrounds and other content at level 80. Those of us that are also leveling alts or are new, have likely quested or grinded to the teens and are likely to be using the Random Dungeon Tool to level in instances rather than quest. I did this myself from 70-80. Then I can come back at level 80 and get extra cash in compensation for not getting experience.

There really is no best PvP server. Some are more Horde populated while oters might be more Alliance populated. Older servers tend to have more players (you can tell this at the server select screen where the population is shown as high).

Also, those of us that have been around a while tend to use one location as a hub like Dalaran in Northrend. We Hearthstone there and use the portals to the other capitals if needed.

You're not going to be making alot of gold at level 8 just yet either, even if you're in a group. At that level most monsters are dropping a copper to a silver or two and in a group you split money between the whole group. You might be able to save up a gold or two, but you aren't going to be getting gold in drops for some time.

Then again you might not have chosen professions yet either, these are ways of making money also. For example if you are a miner you can mine ore then sell it on the Auction House in one of the Capital Cities.

Yes, you can gank in WoW, I do this all the time. In order for you to gank, both you and the opposing faction player must be flagged for PvP Combat. If he or she is not flagged and you re, then you cannot attack them. Also, at level 8 (and on a PvP server) you are still in you faction's home territory and as such are not flagged. If someone from the opposing faction enters your territory, they will be flagged, however they will more than likely be higher level than you and if you attack them...you will likley get one shotted.

You could if you wanted to (bad idea at level 8) go into opposing faction territory and try to gank other leo level players at level 10 or less. Bad idea because you will have to go through Contested Territory and most monsters and NPC's there will out level you.

Once you get to around level 20, most questing takes place in Contested Zones anyway so the likelyhood of PvP goes up, as does the likley hood of getting ganked. Seriously, if i was online and you attacked a friend of mine or even a fellow player in my faction, and i was inzone, and I found out about it ...I'd come looking for you

oh and one more thing, on a PvP server you can get ganked as early as level 8...or even 10. Especially a Druid doing the quest for the first shapeshifting (Bear) Form. You get sent from a level 10-15 zone into a level 55 one. Any high level opposing faction player that happens to be hanging around, may step on you.|||Gorney, thankyou so much. Appreciate the guidance.

I'm wondering if warrior is for me, or if i should start a new toon. I enjoy melee, but like to use my brains a bit more as a mmo vet and in my 30's lol. Rouge sounds pretty cool, as does hunter.

Glad to see pvp awaits me, im playing a human warrior (original i bet) but hes so basic and cant heal much, I love using the bow.

I usually play late in the evening, so bordering USA time zone as its offen into 3-4am. Is there a good server to choose?

Appreciate your help guys.|||Id there a way to see the population of each server, sounds easy enough, but I cant find it.|||Not ROUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rogue.

Rouge is a form of red makeup. You will piss off any Rogue that hears yoyu say it.

Warriors aren't meant to heal. They are a class meant to tank or DPS.

If you want an edge in PVP, go Rogue. If you go Rogue consider your class's racial ability:

Humans: Average Rogues as far as racials go, with respect to stealth. Though they do have some racial abilities like Every Man For Himself.

Gnome: There are many Gnome Rogues. Escape artist racial trait.

Night Elf: The Shadow Meld racial enhances stealth.

Warriors aren't made to use a bow full time either, usually only when pulling a mob. Try a Hunter if you liek using ranged weapons.

Healers are Priests, Paladins, Druids and Shamans.

Gorefiend is a US server with a high population.

Feel free to try this one....

If you do and roll Alliance, you won't want to cross paths with me ;)

A general indication of a server's population can be found ingame on the list of servers shown when you opt to choose a server of your own. You will see "low, medium, high, etc"|||Haha, sry my bad. Yeah i cant find that server on my list or i would come and pwn you, im in the UK, can i simply not join USA server? I'm a night owl and prefer to play at night when most yanks are playing.|||Unfortunately you can't just bop between regions like that. If you wanted to play on US servers you'd have to buy a North American copy of the game. Which you can do... You could buy it online in some manner.

Like the Blizzard store.|||Quote:








Haha, sry my bad. Yeah i cant find that server on my list or i would come and pwn you, im in the UK, can i simply not join USA server? I'm a night owl and prefer to play at night when most yanks are playing.




you can't find Gorefiend becase it's a US server.

You want to PWN...me? ROFL.

Ok seriously, since you are in the UK, I bet you're running the EU Client correct? If you are you won't be able to access any US servers. The EU and US clients are not compatible. You would need to find an EU server. Maybe somone from EU can suggest one.

On PWNing me:

Not gonna happen. Atleast not for a long time.

If we were on the same server, you would first need to level all the way to 80 (playing through Classic then TBC then WOTLK content, and by the time you get close to 80, you would need to go through CATA as well) just to get in range level wise. Gear wise at level 8, you are in mostly Grey (vendor trash) type gear and maybe a Green (Uncommon) items.

I'm Level 80. I'm currently geared in a mix of Blue(rare) items and the rest of my gear is Purple (Epic). I'm now at the point where I'll be running Heroic (harder versions of normal dungeons) and Raids.

Even my weakest attack is more than enough to one shot kill you. I'm a Rogue. We're the bane of PvP to most classes, and indeed, we're the bane to any class lower leveled than our level. You will not know I'm there until I attack and kill you. I can even sneak into your home city of Stormwind and kill you and get away undetected. (that is if you are flagged).

You said you loved the gun?

Taking a shot from mine would PWN you 10 times over.

Though you can buy a US version of the game directly from BLiz if you want to try to take me down.|||Gorney, thanks for your input mate, I would love to have played with you, either by your side of face to face. OK guess i'll have to rough it with the EU chaps.

on the subject of pwnage, i''l have you know my warrior char has 300 armour and im armed with marbles, so beware!